When everyone waits for adoption, it's a stalemate
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this is how this is a stalemate. This is a, this is a classic chicken and egg problem. Each one is waiting for the other. And that's an is as long as that doesn't change, nothing will happen.
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Pocket Casts said it would take value for value seriously once there was more adoption, and hosts said the same thing. Dave calls this a classic chicken-and-egg stalemate: as long as each side waits for the other, nothing changes. Meanwhile almost everyone agrees the big Apple and Spotify apps are poor listening experiences for newcomers.