Value for value isn't the same thing as Bitcoin
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this is a constant source of confusion, is the is value for value is not Satoshis correct that it is not Bitcoin. It is not value for value. It two, two examples, two easy examples, value for value, no agenda does not, does not, does not do, uh, lightning payments.
Episode 189: All Carrot and No Stick! (episode page, opens in a new tab) 00:45:37 (play audio from this timestamp, opens in a new tab)
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A common confusion: value for value doesn't mean satoshis or Bitcoin. No Agenda, the original value-for-value show, doesn't even take Lightning payments for its hosts. V4V is the model; Lightning is just one way to pay.